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Driverless cars

over 2 years ago

How do you think connected and automated vehicles will transform transport in NSW?

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  • Admin Commented Bryce Ingrey-Ferris about 2 years ago
    What will this mean for those who enjoy driving older vehicles like myself and for those who enjoy building classic cars for the street? Will there be a law stopping those driving their pride and joys? What happens when an automated vehicles system is hacked or malfunctions?
  • John Wall over 2 years ago
    If you want to have a glimpse into the future of driverless cars and congestion jump on to TED and watch Elon Musk's interview recorded only a few days ago.
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  • Dain Grice over 2 years ago
    I drive a Subaru Outback with the eyesight technology and when I first got the car I was a bit apprehensive about letting the car brake for me when in traffic, but nowadays it is so fun to watch my friends and family when they are in the driver's seat with the cruise control on (even in stop-start traffic) and we are coming up to a line of stopped traffic and I am saying to them "Don't touch the brakes! Don't touch the brakes!" It really freaks them out and goes against all instincts to not apply the brakes. I find myself driving more often than not with the cruise control on now when I am in traffic because I feel safer knowing that the vehicle has millisecond response times and will take multiple steps of action to prevent an accident with a vehicle in front. Having said that though, I did have to sign a waiver against any legal action towards Subaru if I had an accident as a result of the system failure. I am looking forward to the future and experiencing more automation such as red traffic light detection if you are the lead vehicle (something the Subaru doesn't have - yet).
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  • SandiS over 2 years ago
    I think many drivers will feel a bit nervous about relinquishing control of a vehicle, especially those who have been driving for many years. How do you think people will cope psychologically with the transition to autonomous vehicles, or will the changes be so gradual over time that we won't really notice them?
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    • John Wall over 2 years ago
      Hi Sandi, Thanks for posting. I think you have highlighted an important issue. Will drivers find automated driving acceptable? Our research in the CITI project suggests that this could be a major factor in the uptake of driverless vehicles. Our truck drivers have told us that they can see the advantage of connected vehicles for other drivers but not themselves because they are better than the average driver.A survey conducted by the American Automobile Association in 2016 found that three‐quarters (75%) of U.S. drivers would be afraid to allow an autonomous vehicle to drive itself with them in it.You can find a fact sheet on the survey at
      • SandiS over 2 years ago
        Thanks for the reply John. That survey link you shared is really interesting, especially this response: "Three‐quarters (75%) of U.S. drivers would be afraid to allow an autonomous vehicle to drive itself with them in it." There's probably going to be a big role to play in public awareness and education to help people understand how autonomous vehicles can improve safety.
        • Fiona over 2 years ago
          This is a really interesting point. It will be a huge change for people but I suppose throughout history there have been developments that have required people to think differently e.g. aviation. I also think that for those of us that enjoy driving, driverless cars have less appeal.
          • Luke Thomas over 2 years ago
            I particularly agree with your point Fiona re enjoying driving. There will always be a mass audience for indivisuals who want actually drive their car. Automation should work to improve the experience/safety of driving not remove it entirely.
      • Dave B over 2 years ago
        While there is a large amount of people who would trust their own driving skills more than an automated vehicle, I wonder how many would be more trusting of the mistake-prone drivers of the rest of the vehicles on the road ahead of automation. I, for one, would feel much more secure driving in an environment where all of the other vehicles around me were automated rather than being driven by people who may be distracted, tired, under the influence of drugs or alcohol etc.One of the great advantages of automation would be the ability maintain a constant lower speed, while making journeys shorter. Vehicles should be able to turn across the paths of each other at intersections without the need to stop, just by adjusting gaps. According to my car, its average travel speed in the past 6 years is 32.9km/h (sydney driving). For the 60,000km that I have travelled in it, that is 1824 hours of driving. If the car travelled at a constant (very slow) speed of 40km/h , I would have travelled that distance in 1500 hours - thus saving me an average of an hour a week travelling. At 40km/h, if involved in a crash, it is very unlikely that the vehicle occupants would be killed or seriously injured. Even a pedestrian struck at 40km/h only has approximately 10% chance of being fatally injured.
        • Fraser Johnson over 2 years ago
          Average speed is no indication of your actual speed at any given time (even peak periods), regardless of whether you or a computer is driving. In peak periods, vehicles stop for extended periods. This will still occur with automated vehicles (ie no such thing as continuous traffic flow - remember perpetual motion?), while presumably they will be more efficient and so stopped for less time (until that capacity is taken up by new vehicle demand). Given some stopped period (ie 0km/h), this has a significant bearing on average speed. In order to maintain average speed of ~40km/h, maximum speed must be higher, just as it is for human drivers. The laws of mathematics and physics won't be changing anytime soon.
  • Luke Thomas over 2 years ago
    Many of us know about Tesla but what other manufacturers are leading this space from a commercial perspective? Also when do we expect at least semi-automated cars to be in full use on a mass level?
  • Cary over 2 years ago
    I think it's going to change the landscape around who is responsible in a crash, especially if cars are fully driverless. Who is making the error in a crash if you take the human out of the equation? Or will errors become a think of the past? I assume my car insurance will be cheaper!
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    • John Wall over 2 years ago
      Hi Cary, wow you are the first person to post in the discussion forum. Well done.You are correct the introduction of driverless vehicles will mean that we will have to change many of the laws around who is responsible if a vehicle crashes. The National Transport Commission is leading this work across Australia and TfNSW is playing a major role. If you want to find out more about the NTC's work in this area have a look at their web site